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One question. I'm just curious:

Poll #159063 Word Preference:

Most Offensive:

Amen
3(17.6%)
Shit
4(23.5%)
Fuck
5(29.4%)
God
1(5.9%)
Pagan
4(23.5%)

Comments

( 37 comments — Leave a comment )
datamoon
Jul. 21st, 2003 12:43 pm (UTC)
yea you know, i think the ppl that chose amen are just upset bc it reminds them of christianity. well, i don't really find the pagan religion offensive [well, not all of it at least] but i read Most Offensive and when i looked at the word pagan that's the word that made me feel funny so i chose that.
huh...subliminal
digitalgoth
Jul. 21st, 2003 12:47 pm (UTC)
Well, I appreciate the honesty. :) And no, I chose amen as the most offensive becuase it really does bother me much more than fuck, shit, pagan, etc.
datamoon
Jul. 21st, 2003 12:53 pm (UTC)
Re:
amen! awe shit! didn't mean to offend any fucken pagans
(no subject) - datamoon - Jul. 21st, 2003 12:54 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - thejew - Jul. 21st, 2003 03:31 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - digitalgoth - Jul. 21st, 2003 03:36 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - thejew - Jul. 21st, 2003 04:10 pm (UTC) - Expand
Yah well.. - digitalgoth - Jul. 21st, 2003 04:19 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - datamoon - Jul. 21st, 2003 04:12 pm (UTC) - Expand
Gotta love the polls. - digitalgoth - Jul. 21st, 2003 04:20 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Gotta love the polls. - datamoon - Jul. 21st, 2003 04:24 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Gotta love the polls. - digitalgoth - Jul. 21st, 2003 04:45 pm (UTC) - Expand
tymeschizm
Jul. 21st, 2003 04:04 pm (UTC)
as one of the two votes for "fuck" i think i should explain myself.

i don't find any of the above words offensive. it's what you do with them. so i just voted for my favorite word on the list =p.

however, intellectualizing this choice, i can say it is easily the most offensive word on the list.

Pagan is close - but consider how many people take that name for their religious views already.

god is merely a concept, and the word is NOT synonymous with the christian god. amen is merely latin for "again."

shit could be pretty offensive, but most people would probably consider excrement fairly disgusting anyway, and merely use politer terms for it.

however, "fuck" can be taken in the context of sexuality. i don't like using it as a term for sex, because i think it degrades what is basically a really good thing to be doing. to make an explative out of that particular act reletivly offends me.
digitalgoth
Jul. 21st, 2003 04:44 pm (UTC)
I think I answered "amen" mostly because it's what bothers me the most when someone yells it at me.

Being called a "pagan" (which, mind you, is a christian word meaning 'any faith or belief system that is not strictly christian') doesn't bother me as it's the truth.

Someone yelling "fuck" at me doesn't really bother me as it is usually more than enough proof that they have a limited grasp on the english language, or a limited intelligence and can't think of something more imiginative to yell.

"Shit" has never bothered me. So what? it's shit. Everyone has some, and some people are full of it.

"God" comes in a close second to "amen". Someone yelling "god wants this..." or "god will never..." etc etc etc in my face usually gets on my bad side rather quickly. I take my beliefs very seriously and get very very irritated at someone who can't respect me enough to not try and press their religion on me.

"Amen", granted, being only latin for "again or another" or "Amen - Amon - The Egyptian god of life and reproduction, represented as a man with a ram's head." or "Middle English, from Old English, from Late Latin ãme˜n, from Greek, from Hebrew ãme˜n, certainly, verily, from ãman, to be firm. See ãme˜n in Semitic Roots.". etc etc etc
It still carries with it an unadulterated sense of Christianity and Catholocistic ways of thought. Those being things that I have detested all my life, for reasons that I'm not going into on here. Just say it that it's one of the things that will piss me off much much faster than almost anything else because it is just one more facet of christianity being pushed at people more than they ever wanted it. It's almost as disgraceful as the President saying "God bless America" in plain violation of the separation of Church and State that this country is supposed to have.

-X
god - wvwdarkladywvw - Jul. 21st, 2003 04:55 pm (UTC) - Expand
wvwdarkladywvw
Jul. 21st, 2003 04:46 pm (UTC)
fuck is something that its most likely going to get a negitive responce out of me, i mean someone i cared about said fuck you i'd be down right vollatile.
amen is annoying, however someone calls me a pegan i'll laugh in their face becouse they dont know jack about me. then i'd prolly start spouting off random shit and threaten to curse them. well that is what i used to do in highschool. no wonder i couldnt get a date=P.
god is just kinda funny people who say jesus christ, or well christians and dont think of what they are saying.
if someone was to say, you shithead. its more degaratory then someone saying oh shit, but you'd prolly heard more people saying shit! normally when they get hurt, i guess there is also you little shit which is kinda both, depending on if someone is your friend or not.

kragen
Jul. 22nd, 2003 01:47 am (UTC)
none of these offend me
But how about these? They all make me a lot more upset than any of the words above.
  • nigger
  • inappropriate
  • free gift
  • overweight
digitalgoth
Jul. 22nd, 2003 02:12 am (UTC)
Re: none of these offend me
If none of them offend you, then the poll wasn't directed at you. :P

Your suggestions on offensive content/words will be taken into account for the next poll of offensive material that I do. :)

-X
Re: none of these offend me - tymeschizm - Jul. 22nd, 2003 02:51 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: none of these offend me - digitalgoth - Jul. 22nd, 2003 03:00 am (UTC) - Expand
mikela
Jul. 22nd, 2003 04:06 am (UTC)
For the record, none of the words offend me. The use of words is what makes them offensive. Taken out of context, they are without meaning (not without definition, but without meaning - big difference) and therefore harmless.
lostsoulslament
Jul. 22nd, 2003 04:05 pm (UTC)
Maybe the idea behind this poll should be explained...See, Rumour and I were having a discussion about Christians and were theoroizing that if we all began using "Amen" in place of "Fuck", then in 30 years or so "Amen" would be considered a bad word.
digitalgoth
Jul. 22nd, 2003 04:53 pm (UTC)
Apparently, however, we aren't the only 2 people that already take offense when someone screams AMEN! in your face. Thank you for your support. :)

-X
kayamackan
Jul. 24th, 2003 03:10 pm (UTC)
no offense
No offense honey but I have a question...why do ppl take so much offense over other people's beliefs, views, or lifestyle? I mean Im Christian and I could easily take that mindset and say that these posts offend me, but lets face it they dont. Yes they bother me because its slightly unsettling to hear people use your belief system for negative amusement, especially people you call friends...however, most people who take such strong offense to anything have a fear of something. At least that is something we are taught in our Psych classes but hey people can be wrong! But please tell me why people on both sides take offense to it?
digitalgoth
Jul. 24th, 2003 04:51 pm (UTC)
Re: no offense
Oh come on... Give me a hard question next time:

People get incensed about lots of things, for a variety of different reasons. Taking offense over other people's beliefs, views, or lifestyle is one of the most prolific things on the face of this planet. I can name numerous examples, ranging from even the early days of history in the form of the Crusades, on through the days of slavery and the settlement of africa by europeans, and on from there to the settling of Austrailia by criminals, etc etc etc. If you're looking for a more recent or local example, I can go with this: I have a very strong sense of self that carries with it an equally strong moral base and belief base. When someone else decides that it is their "god given right" to infringe on both my sense of self and my beliefs by telling me that I'm an amoral person because I don't follow the Bible... Well, I'm sure you can see how that would be offensive. You aren't one of the propagandists that try and shove your religion down everyone else's throat like
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Oh come on... Give me a hard question next time:

People get incensed about lots of things, for a variety of different reasons. Taking offense over other people's beliefs, views, or lifestyle is one of the most prolific things on the face of this planet. I can name numerous examples, ranging from even the early days of history in the form of the Crusades, on through the days of slavery and the settlement of africa by europeans, and on from there to the settling of Austrailia by criminals, etc etc etc. If you're looking for a more recent or local example, I can go with this: I have a very strong sense of self that carries with it an equally strong moral base and belief base. When someone else decides that it is their "god given right" to infringe on both my sense of self and my beliefs by telling me that I'm an amoral person because I don't follow the Bible... Well, I'm sure you can see how that would be offensive. You aren't one of the propagandists that try and shove your religion down everyone else's throat like <lj-user="amenlover">. It's unfortunate for christians and catholics that so many people of their faith seem intent on pressing the religion on to others. Christianity is, in essense a good thing, and I would never say otherwise. People need something to believe in, and christianity is as good a thing to believe in as anything else. The problem is that with so many christians and catholics, and baptists, etc pushing the religion down other people's throats, people like me become very very agitated and shy away from even the nicest and kindest attempts at conversion
Most christians, catholics, baptists, etc, in this country seem to forget that my right to freedom of religion is a protected right. Freedom of religion means that I can actively practice any faith I choose, including the lack of faith and no one has the right to tell me otherwise. Freedom of religion does <b>not</b> mean that they are free to attempt to spread christianity wherever they can, especially to unsaved heathens such as myself, and then curse me when I decline the chance at redemption. That's what I find so offensive. I find it offensive that 60%+ of this nation seems to think that I need saving. I find it even more offensive that fewer than 5% of those people have even the slightest idea what my belief system is, or even care. All that seems to matter is that I have not found jesus, and therefore am in danger of eternal damnation.
You know what? I've heard it all. It's been yelled at me more times than I can count. To those of you out there that think that just because you are christian and the bible tells you to go forth and spread the word of god: That doesn't give you the right to even attempt to get me to see your god without first finding out if I'm interested, or even if it's a topic of conversation that I care to persue.

My best friend was a heartily devout christian for all 11 years that we were friends. We decided about 6 months into our friendship when I was about 11 years old, that we simply wouldn't talk about religion. And we spent 10 years being the best of friends and not talking about religion.

I do -not- have to believe in your god, gods, book, scriptures, verses, texts, angels, demons, saints, jesus, church, priest, pastor, virgin, or anything else for me to talk to you as a human being. And unless someone else brings it up, religion isn't something that I actively persue as a topic of conversation becuase of the simple fact that most people are too close-minded to even bother finding out what the 'infidel heathens' actually believe in, and whether or not it really is Devil Worship.

Jesus tought respect for your fellow human. He taught acceptance. Neither of those have I -ever- received, in any form from -any- Christian about my faith or set of beliefs.

You hypocrites. I am more christian than most of you.


-X
Re: no offense - tymeschizm - Jul. 24th, 2003 06:58 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - kragen - Jul. 24th, 2003 07:28 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - digitalgoth - Jul. 24th, 2003 07:38 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - kragen - Jul. 24th, 2003 08:02 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - kragen - Jul. 24th, 2003 08:13 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - digitalgoth - Jul. 24th, 2003 08:25 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - digitalgoth - Jul. 24th, 2003 08:18 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - kayamackan - Jul. 24th, 2003 09:28 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - digitalgoth - Jul. 24th, 2003 09:31 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: no offense - avatarofblood - Jul. 24th, 2003 10:03 pm (UTC) - Expand
mikela
Jul. 24th, 2003 08:09 pm (UTC)
Jesus tought respect for your fellow human. He taught acceptance. Neither of those have I -ever- received, in any form from -any- Christian about my faith or set of beliefs
Not true, not true. I know of one Christian who has complete respect for your right to have any or no faith/beliefs and accepts your belief system (whatever it is - I think you've told me some of it at some point, but my memory is nil) right along with the rest of you.
I would very much like to hear your views. Email me?
digitalgoth
Jul. 24th, 2003 08:20 pm (UTC)
Well, you've just proven me wrong on that one. :P

I guess I should restate it to say that I've rarely, if ever got full respect for my relgious beliefs or religious privacy from a christian of any denomination.

-X
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